At the time of this video transcript, Gale is a happily married female in her thirties. By happenstance a therapist who ran onto her had known her peripherally as a child. The therapist knew about the controversial therapy Gale had received, and asked if she would be willing to be video taped about that experience that she underwent in therapy 15 years earlier. She readily agreed.

The following is from a video transcript: about July 1992:

Question: You were a disturbed child?

I remember that I didn't want to live, I wanted to die…. I felt that way a lot.

Question: Okay, when you were in a Foster Home….. at that time you had a very controversial therapy in the hopes it would help you Do you remember that?

Oh, yeah, I remember!

Question: What was that like?

At the time, it seemed awful. I was 15….. somewhere in there. Maybe 14.. It was hard. I agreed to it, I'm sure, but it was hard. My therapists were…… (names therapists and foster parents).

Question: You had the full long holding therapy all day long. Right? What do you remember of that?

I remember the first session, clearly…

I remember the anger coming out, I was just…. It was like the exorcist, My anger was totally uncontrollable; it was terrible, but I remember telling myself before the session that I woudn't let them get to me. There was no way I would let myself go. I was not going to show it.

Question: But with the provocation, you had no choice?

Yes, and I honestly believe if I hadn't had it done, I would have killed myself or someone else. I had no love - I couldn't love - only hate. So there was no way I would give up control. Because if I loved I'd be vulnerable. I know I could have shot someone without any hesitation.

I could not live my life in a normal way today if I had not had that therapy. I know I'd be in jail for killing someone. That kind of anger is so strong….. unless you have it, it's hard to explain… It's literally like a demon inside. Of you.

Question: What do you remember about the therapy?

I remember the therapists saying the most rotten things to me. I remember their taking control of everything on their terms. The rage came out… and I know it saved my life.

Question: So you feel it helped?

Looking back on it I needed it. My rage was so uncontrollable. If I hadn't had it, I know I would have killed myself or someone else. I would not be living the wonderful life I live today.